[Cadre-politics] [Glpj] Petition against Indo-US strategic deal and nuclear agreement : Pl. Sign

Tue Sep 11 20:20:22 EDT 2007

Hi Howie,

I responded below.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Howie Goodell wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> Since I just caused 2 spams of the list unintentionally, let me do it
> once more with a very good cause.;-)  Karthik, I'm not trying to
> defend American policy in the Middle East --

I didn't say you were defending American policy in the middle-east. I'm 
sorry if it wasn't clear. I was just pointing 
out that there are other reasons for intervention than acccess to Oil.

Goodluck with the presentation.

- Karthik

God knows it's been
> enough to inspire deep cynicism -- but I think doing something about
> our dependence on oil from that part of the world would do more to
> reduce the motivation for disasters like Iraq than anything else I can
> think of.  Next Wednesday 9/19 U. Mass will host a genuine inventing
> wild man, Doug Malewicki (157-MPH "California Commuter" in the 1980's;
> Evel Knieval's canyon-jumping rocket cycle before Karthik was born
> probably; 40-foot "entertainment robot" Robosaurus that bites cars and
> planes in half at auto shows ....).  His new proposed urban
> transportation system SkyTran is 200 MPG now and would solve the
> transport problem of cities amazingly well -- it could be
> solar-powered and zero-carbon; zero-grid dependence eventually.  My
> wiki site hosted by the Community Software Lab explains details:
> http://www.skytran.org.
>
> Please take a look at my Google doc proposal "Skytran Campus Proposal":
> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dc6nfm33_85f9hf8g&invite=c323bbp if you
> can, and send it to someone you know in one of the departments we
> named (the hook is that the whole University could do research with a
> prototype system).  The SkyTran inventor Doug Malewicki will be here
> during the day on 9/19/; not sure exactly where or when (except that
> he needs to be down at MIT by 7 -- of course, they have their own
> version of this mentioning the Media Lab, CSAIL, Sloan etc.).  My
> adviser Georges Grinstein in CS will send it to Chancellor Meehan --
> this just could happen!
>
> I also did a straw-man campus loop using Google Maps' route editing
> feature: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=1+university+ave.+01854&daddr=71+Wilder+Street,+01854&sll=42.457765,-71.55687&sspn=0.719355,1.141205&ie=UTF8&z=16&om=1
> It should show an aerial photo view of a route between Olsen, South
> Campus, and East (Wannelancit and Fox).  You can probably edit it
> yourself if you have different ideas.  Doug, being an inventor, shot
> right back with a 2-page description of how to go right over the river
> ("it's not #$% 80,000-pound semi trailers, but a stream of 700-pound
> vehicles..." -- I'll send it to you if you like.
>
> What do you think?  U. Mass Lowell could be the transportation
> trend-setter of the world!  Add UML spin-off Konarka's solar cells
> above the tracks, and we'd be on the way to zero-zero (no carbon
> emissions; no net energy input) transportation at 100 MPH (in a
> fully-built system with lots of track that's not frequently used --
> right now they figure they could do it if the vehicles only went 30
> MPH.)
>
> Take care!
> Howie Goodell
>
>
> On 9/9/07, Karthik Ramanathan <kramanat at cs.uml.edu> wrote:
>> Hi Howie,
>>
>> I'm in boston area and would be glad to talk more in private (don't know
>> if you realised that you posted to the whole GLPJ list).
>>
>> But just to clarify: I do not subscribe to your view that its dependence
>> on middle-eastern oil that drives US policies in the middle-east.
>> US only secures about 10% of its oil from the middle-east with the
>> rest 90% coming from atlantic basin/latin america etc.
>>
>> It's control over the region and prevention of independence in the third
>> world, and emergence of an alternative power that's the key element of US
>> foreign policy - and that policy would continue even if there was 100%
>> reliance on renewable sources of energy in the US.
>>
>> Would love to hear more on your end in private.
>> Best wishes,
>> Karthik
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Howie Goodell wrote:
>>
>>> Karthik,
>>>
>>> Where are you now, and what's going on?
>>>
>>> I'm back in the US and working in Cambridge.  It occurs to me that I
>>> should invite your mentor to an event Wed 9/19 at MIT -- it's not
>>> political, but it would do huge political good by potentially ending
>>> our dependence on Middle Eastern oil that is the source of so much
>>> evil in our foreign policy.  It's a 200 MPG public transportation
>>> system based on a new kind of magnetic levitation (actually, I'm
>>> proposing that the goal should be to make it zero:zero; all solar etc.
>>> renewable energy) -- the inventor will be there proposing a test track
>>> and prototype loop on campus, then to Harvard, then all over
>>> Boston....  I'll send you an invite soon -- I also think I can get him
>>> to UML.  Huge potential for dense cities like India and China have,
>>> but it would even work in the US: $10M a mile initially, falling to
>>> $2M in mass production; probably considerably cheaper once the Chinese
>>> get done with it.
>>>
>>> Howie
>>>
>>> On 9/8/07, Karthik Ramanathan <kramanat at cs.uml.edu> wrote:
>>>> Dear members of GLPJ,
>>>>
>>>> The recent Indian-US nuclear agreement basically frees domestic Uranium
>>>> supplies in India for manufacturing nuclear weapons - increasing the
>>>> production of these many-fold.
>>>>
>>>> This is a clear move - for a almost certain - toward nuclear holocaust in
>>>> the region, given the relations between India and Pakistan, India-China.
>>>> The immediate consequence would be a arms race among the three.
>>>>
>>>> All this while the Bush administration, Congress and the US ruling classes
>>>> cry foul over a non-existent Iranian weapons programme.
>>>>
>>>> With the nuclear deal, also comes a defence agreement which seeks to
>>>> outsource US war operations to India. Apart from the massive
>>>> opposition in India, this is nothing but an attempt to undercut opposition
>>>> to the War mongering in the US - among people who detest and protest the
>>>> war crimes like yourselves at GLPJ.
>>>>
>>>> Please read and consider signing this petition:
>>>>
>>>> www.petitionspot.com/petitions/protestindousalliance
>>>>
>>>> Sicnerely,
>>>> Karthik R
>>>> (old member of GLPJ :) )
>>>>
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