[Cadre-politics] numbers for programmer time

[Fred G. Martin]

Quick reaction -- 30 hrs per week of actual engineering time would be  
an excellent productivity ratio.

Fred

On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Dan MacNeil wrote:

> Eric Bryant wrote:
>>
>> dan I'm not sure where your figures add up to:
>>
>> $35/hr figures out to about a 70k per year salary. if we take out  
>> 20%,
>> it's about 60k per year.
>>
>> please get back to me immediately about this. as an action item,  
>> give me a
>> salary per year that you are comfortable with to get someone good.
>
>
> I've cadre-politics as our billable rate is a subject of wider
> interest and wider past discussion.
>
> The $35/hr billable rate assumes:
>
> 	1) 4 weeks of vacation, holiday, sick time, etc per year
>
> 	2) 30 hours a week doing actual work
>
> 	3) 10 hours a week going to silly meetings,
> 	   cleaning the desk, futzing with screen savor
> 	   reading manuals, etc
>
> 	4) paycheck of $30K/yr in cash ( pre employee tax)
>
> 	5) 10K for health insurance & employer share of taxes
> 	
> 	6) 20% off the top for overhead (paying me,
> 	   buying computers, books, paying a
>             fundraising dude(ette), etc)
>
> So in rounded figures:
>
> 	$70K = $35/hr * 52  weeks *40 hours per week
> 	
> 	$64K = $70K - $6000 (4 weeks vacation/sick/etc)
> 	
> 	$48K = $64K - $16K (10 hrs/wk slack * 48 weeks)
>
> 	$40K = 50K - $10K (overhead)
>
> 	$30K = 40K - 10k (benefits)
> 	
> Thirty thousand per year plus benefits is what various talented
> people (David Siegal, Josh, etc) have said is what they need to
> work for us.
>
> I suppose you could argue that the effective engineering time (48
> weeks a year, 30 hours per week) is too low, but that's about
> what people (other than me) have been able to consistently put in
> over the course of a year at the CSL. It is also consistent with
> the literature.
>
> This might be too complicated for the grant.
>
> It might be easier and about as acuraete to say we need a salary
> of 60K (market rate for new CS grad with good grades &
> references) and overhead of 20% (12K for equipment, supervision,
> benefits, etc)
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