[CSL board] DRAFT mvhub business plan partner LTC / nscap fragment
Dan MacNeil
dan at thecsl.org
Sun Aug 24 13:03:22 EDT 2008
Eventually, this message will probably be part of a MOU with LTC
and/or NSCAP
My goals for you (the board) in this DRAFT DRAFT message
1) review for feasibility, strategy or morality problems
2) understand issues
3) Ask stupid questions.
FYI, Previous business plan FRAGMENT at:
http://lists.thecsl.org/pipermail/divinerightofkings/2008-June/000656.html
My assumption is that CSL and our partners (ltc? and nscap) will:
1) cooperate on making the mvhub software and
data more useful and more used.
2) cooperate on raising money to cover
expenses.
3) Share most of our data and code
with the world.
Q: How much does the CSL partner pay?
$2,000 for every 100,000 people in
coverage area.
I got to this figure from looking at
existing payments.
Lowell has about 100,000 people.
LTC now pays $2,000 per year for
hosting, bug fixes and data
maintenance.
Q: What's in it for CSL partner?
Q: What does $2,000 buy?
The glory of providing a useful
service to the community.
Half of the MVHUb sponsorship money.
Something between $0 and $6K per
100,000 people. A loss or gain
of between -2,000 and +4,000 per
100K people.
A guarantee that 80% of the information
in the database has been updated within
8 months and a goal to do much better
than that.
$2,000 pays for 2 hours a week @ $15/hr
of phone calling to follow up with
agencies that didn't respond to the
automated emails and 12 hours of
programmer / system administrator time
to keep the system running and to improve
the system.
Q: How will guarantee of data quality be meet?
We define "out of date" as "last update was
more than 6 months ago"
The mvhub software sends program automatically
sends agency and program contacts an email
asking them to click a link and update their records
If after 3 automated emails or if the email
bounces, CSL calls the agency or program
contact, asks them to update their record
and follows up with a manual email with
the update link.
If after 7 emails, three phone calls and 2
months of effort, we haven't gotten the record
updated, we remove it. --If we can't reach the
agency the public is unlikely to reach it either.
Q: Going forward, who would own the domain name ?
The local partner owns the local
domain name. For example, LTC
owns mvhub.com
NSCAP would own the domain for their
local site nsportal.org (?)
CSL owns other domains like mahub.us
ushub.us and nyhub.us.
CSL and local partners would have right
to use shared data on any domain they
control
Q: What data is public and what is proprietary.
Much of the data in mvhub is in the public
domain. You can no legally copyright a
collection of facts. It is legal to take
the phone book, re-type it and sell your
own version of the phone book.
People can search mvhub or download the .pdf
printable directories to get most of the data
that is on mvhub.
Some important data is not shared with the
public.
Most important is the private contact
information for each program and agency:
"We wil not share your private
email with other entities"
...is the promise we make when people sign up.
info at organization.org is published world wide
betty_contact_person at organization.org is not.
Right now, this proprietary data is owned
by LTC
Q: What happens if we want to go our separate ways?
The local partner could take the a copy of
the local public and private data, a copy
of the software and their domain name and
proceed as they wished.
Q: Who gets what data in a separation?
The local partner would get a copy
of all data for the cities they
are partnering for. For example,
If nscap is partnering for
Peabody, Lynn, Salem and Beverley.
and there was a separation, NSCAP
would get the complete data
for those cites.
Q: How does the sponsorship work?
The local partner and CSL identify,
businesses and other funders who
are willing to pay more than
market rate to have sponsor recognition
on mvhub pages and a tax deduction for
their donation above market rates for
advertising.
Q: How will sponsorship categories work?
Real Estate Agents, Lawyers, Bankers,
Retailers, Foundations & Rich people
don't compete with each other. For
$2,000 per 100,000 people A sponsor
can be sure that no other entity in
their category will appear as
a category sponsor.
Q: Who gets the sponsorship money?
CSL and local partner split it
to cover their expenses related
to mvhub.
Q: What if somebody doesn't want to buy the full category.
As long as they buy a minimum share ($500)
they can share the category. If (4) banks
want to share that is fine.
Q: What if somebody can't contribute $500?
We will accept any donation in support of
mvhub and list the donor in the "Donors"
page. Contributions of less than
$500 don't get recognized on every page.
Q: What if more than one entity in a sponsorship
category wants in ?
1) Priority to previous year's sponsor
2) After 30 days from start of year, first come first served
3) Donations w/o expectation of return are always welcome.
Q: What are the goals for sponsorship ?
We'd like to get 2 sponsorships (@ $2k each)
by January and the next parker foundation
application.
We'd like to raise $40,000 in sponsorship money
in 2009 (20K to CSL , 20K to local partners)
---Maybe this is realistic, maybe not.
Q: What about local partners in the Merrimack
Valley outside Lowell ?
We haven't figured that out yet.
Maybe we can identify local partners for
Lawrence/Haverall/Methuen.
Maybe LTC wants to partner for entire valley.
Q: Who owns the data?
Right now, LTC and Advancement Plus own
mvhub data.
North shore data would be owned jointly
by CSL and NSCAP
We'd like CSL to use data
on other sites like MAhub.us
and ushub.us
We'd like to (continue) publishing
**most** of the data in a form that
will let other people use and
improve it.
Q: Who is Advancement Plus?
http://www.advancementplus.org/
This group, run and funded by Harry Howell
paid LTC to develop mvhub. CSL was part of LTC
at the time.
Informally, Advancement Plus assigned partial
copyright to LTC when AP stopped working in Lowell.
Q: Who owns the code?
Various pieces are owned by Advancement Plus,
LTC and CSL.
It is currently licensed under the Affero GPL
and legally considered "published"
Simplifying somewhat, anyone else can use the
code for whatever they want as long as
they contribute changes back.
This does not mean it is in the public domain
Code in the public domain can be hidden or
horded.
Q: What are CSL responsibilities?
1) Keep the website running and usable
2) Make improvements to website on best effort basis.
3) Keep data up to date
4) Add data on best effort / good faith basis.
5) Seek sponsorship on best effort / good faith basis.
6) Split mvhub sponsorship money with local partners
Q: What are local partner responsibilities
1) Add data on best effort / good faith basis.
2) Pay $2K per year per 100K people in cities covered
3) Seek sponsorship on best effort / good faith basis.
4) Split mvhub sponsorship money with CSL
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